Travail in Severgnini for a year Anyone who doubted that Biden is a saint was singled out by his newspaper as a Putinan on La7

Q&A at Otto e Mezzo on La7 between the editor of Il Fatto Quotidiano, Marco Travaglio, and the Corriere della Sera journalist, Beppe Severgnini The dispute starts from the new book by Travaglio, in bookstores today, "Scemi di Guerra.

The tragedy of Ukraine, the farce of Italy A pacifist country taken hostage by NoPax".

Severgnini doesn't like the title: "I don't understand how anyone who doesn't think like you can be dismissed as an idiot" But Travaglio explains: "If you read it in addition to buying it, you will discover that I don't call stupid those who don't think like me, I call stupid those who say nonsense and above all those who believe in those nonsense" that he says.

The director of Fatto Quotidiano criticizes above all the coverage of the conflict by the Italian press, and underlines: “Severgnini complains about the title of the book but for a year anyone who doubted that Biden is a saint, that Stoltenberg is a saint and that weapons must be sent was also pointed out by his newspaper on the front page”, as with the “ list of Putinians", allegedly filed "by the secret services", also made up of names that did not actually appear in the Intelligence report "This shameful thing lasted a year and must stop - Travaglio presses - because those who criticized the single thought have been criminalized".

The director of Il Fatto also cites the case of the news given by the investigative journalist, Pulitzer Prize winner Seymour Hersh: "He brought evidence of the fact that the Nord Stream 1 and 2 gas pipelines were not self-sabotaged by Putin, but they were sabotaged by the US with his allies – explains Travaglio – And this news, signed by a Pulitzer, had no hearing Social networks have classified it as fake news”.

“We come to classify a Pulitzer scoop as fake news – she remarks – because it does not support the propaganda of the White House” Travaglio continues: "We said that Russia would default due to the sanctions, but instead it is recovering".

And, again, "we said that Putin was practically dead, we attributed all the diseases in the world to him" The book, he concludes, "are all quotation marks, not my judgements".

At that point Severgnini replies: “It's not true that all the people who have raised doubts .

It's Not True That These Things Are Not Known

But if there is anyone who has dismissed the others as "war idiots", which is a serious statement, it was this part (the critics ed ).

I have heard very serious things on TV ” Severgnini continues and presses: “I would like to point out that all European governments support what I say, ie that if you leave Ukraine and don't try to help it, they are massacred and a proud Putin becomes even more dangerous.

Are they all stupid?” The director of Fatto Quotidiano, however, denies it and says: “Nothing is true.

As Luco Caracciolo often says, Europe has at least four positions, all different There are countries that have not sent a single gun to Ukraine.

And the same is true in NATO, so it's not true " The problem, explains Travaglio again, is not the "philo-Atlantist" press which is "very free, those are ideas", but which "the important thing is not to tell lies".

And he concludes by quoting an episode concerning Beppe Severgnini “To say that Putin wanted to occupy the whole of Europe, as Severgnini said in this broadcast, that 'if there weren't NATO it would already be in Lisbon', in my opinion it is nonsense”, explains Travaglio.

“I have never said a sentence like that,” replies the Corriere journalist “But it's on YouTube”, the director of the Fatto continues.

“It was a paradox I guess …”, tries to intervene the presenter, Lilli Gruber But Travaglio continues: "And then you added that we win anyway because we are 40 to 1, this is another lie because the idea that NATO is the world belongs to a rhetoric of a small ancient world".

"No, we win because we are the family of democracies", tries to counter Severgnini But Travaglio concludes: "NATO is not the world, it is a small minority of the world, this is the reason why sanctions don't work".

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